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OdinsLoveChild · 22/10/2016 16:49

I can make lovely pastry, gorgeous jams, bake beautiful cakes and pickles galore.

I cannot however get my potato to stay on top of my cottage pie. How do I stop it sinking? I really don't know where im going wrong. I've tried with butter, without butter. Piped on the top and spooned on top. On top of hot filling and cold filling, put on hot and on cold. What am I doing wrong? It just sinks to the bottom, disintegrates and turns into slop. Sinking potato on cottage pie | Mumsnet (1)

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Pippin8 · 22/10/2016 16:50

I'm not expert buy I would say your filling isn't thick enough or your potato needs bulking out with cheese.

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Sparklesilverglitter · 22/10/2016 16:51

I'd say either your mash or cottage pie sauce isn't thick enough.

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suze28 · 22/10/2016 16:53

Do you add milk to your mashed potato? I've found that mash made with no milk added stays on top far better.

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Artandco · 22/10/2016 16:54

Is your sauce really runny?

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RNBrie · 22/10/2016 16:54

I'd say it's not a mash problem but a mince problem. There should be very little liquid left after you've cooked the mince. Also it helps to wait until the mince has cooled down before putting the mash on top.

Do a spoonful around the edges then fill in the middle, make sure you don't have any gaps.

If it makes you feel any better, I can bake anything too... Except flapjacks. They come out like little bricks. Every single time!!

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PinkiePiesCupcakes · 22/10/2016 16:57

Use a spatula and don't put it on top of the filling but scrape it on the edge of the dish, iyswim.
Get it to adhere to the dish side first and then fork it level.

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flumpybear · 22/10/2016 16:57

Mince problem I think too - i usually thinks clean my gravy, but leave most of the gravy in a saucepan and add it after (so don't put the pie itself)

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MrsNuckyThompson · 22/10/2016 16:58

Yup. Think your mince is too runny.

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OdinsLoveChild · 22/10/2016 16:58

I don't add milk to the potatoes no. Maybe the sauce is too thin then. It's not very firm but it's not loose either (it doesn't spread across the plate on serving) . Maybe chuck some more flour in it to make it very thick.

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Hissy · 22/10/2016 17:44

You have to let the mince cool first before putting on the potato.

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Mindtrope · 22/10/2016 18:06

Solids won't sit on top of liquids. Your mince mixture should be fairly dry. Moist, but no gravy. The mince mixture needs to be fairly thick. If not then I don;t hesitate to pass through a sieve or colander. Much easier to assemble, retain the sauce- everyone loves extra gravy, especially if pimped up with extra fried onion or mustard.

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exWifebeginsat40 · 22/10/2016 18:45

finish the mince off by stirring a spoonful of cornflour in. let it cool in the dish until it gets a 'skin' on it. tiny spoonfuls of mash and bob's your dad's brother.

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Thinkingblonde · 22/10/2016 19:01

I fry the onions then add the mince with dash of Daddies brown sauce I don't add any other liquid, any liquid from the juices is drained off and reserved to make gravy with. The potato topping is quite thick and stiff. I don't add a lot of milk or butter. Let the mince cool and spoon the potato over the top. A blob on each corner and one in the middle then spread it out.

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Hissy · 23/10/2016 07:47

If you cool the meat, the fat and gravy solidify...

That's how professional kitchens do it.

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raspberryrippleicecream · 04/11/2016 22:15

Jamie Oliver on his programme tonight put a layer of frozen peas in top of the mince before adding the potato, and said it was to stop sinking mash!

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Indecisivejo · 07/11/2016 18:18

It sinks if the mince mixture is still hot when u put the mash on, leave it to cool first

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iphilomela · 12/11/2016 09:48

The trick I use is to place the mince layer in the bottom of the dish you are going to cook it in and then place it in the fridge. Leave to cool thoroughly! You will know it has cooled long enough, when there appears to be what looks like a 'skin' on top of the mince. This 'skin' is strong enough to support the weight of the mashed potato. Balance small blobs of mash evenly over the mince and then spread using a fork. The ridges left by the fork in the potato will go nice and crispy when cooked in the oven.

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SlottedSpoon · 12/11/2016 10:13

I always ladle off most of the sauce/gravy before topping the meat mixture with potato, and serve it separately afterwards because you need the meat mixture to be quite 'sturdy' and bordering on dry. Also the potato - it can be difficult to spread if it's too thick, but will immediately sink if it's too loose - especially if there is a lot of gravy in the dish. I sort of dollop the potato on in blobs rather than trying to spread it on, then just lightly blend the very top layer to prevent gaps.

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Lenazabaglione · 12/11/2016 11:03

I use a trick from Delia Smith! I steam the potatoes rather than boil. When they are cooked, drain then cover the steamer with a clean tea towel for 5 minutes or so to absorb the steam. Mash with butter, no milk. Works a treat and no sinking.

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Sgtmajormummy · 12/11/2016 11:10

You could put a layer of wafer-thin raw potatoes on top of the filling. They would cook quickly because they're sitting in the gravy, but still make a shelf for your mashed potatoes.

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MissMargie · 12/11/2016 11:12

I gently lay spoonfuls of mash over the mince, then lightly spread across with a flicking motion with the fork, joining the spoonfuls into a layer.
I also use a dish sized to have potato slightly above dish so it goes crispy. Think oven is 180 degrees or higher

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OlennasWimple · 12/11/2016 11:13

RNBrie - try cooking your flapjacks for five minutes less

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Rafeontherun · 12/11/2016 11:15

Mince is too runny

I do 500ml of stock to 500g of mince and simmer for 40 mins. And thicken with cornstarch mixed with water. It's lovely and thick.

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orangebird69 · 12/11/2016 11:25

Only butter in the mash. The filling doesn't have to be cold. My trick is to chuck in some gravy granules into the meat mix - really thickens it up and adds extra beefy flavour.

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ozlander · 01/07/2018 09:27

I finely shred cabbage and fry it with onion flakes until just about cooked. Spread that over the top then the spud. Works ok.

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Why does my potato sink in cottage pie? ›

Cottage Pie – 2 little tips

I just have 2 little tips to make your Cottage Pie a resounding success: To stop the potato from sinking into the filling, cool the filling first. But this isn't a deal breaker, it's just a visual thing ie if you don't cool the filling, the potato “bleeds” into the beef mixture; and.

How do you keep mash potatoes from sinking in shepherd's pie? ›

To stop the mash sinking into the filling, allow the meat to cool before topping with the mashed potato. Freeze in individual ovenproof dishes for an easy meal for one. For a really crisp, golden topping, flash under the grill for a few mins before serving.

Why is my cottage pie so runny? ›

If your cottage pie is too runny, it might be because it has not been simmered for long enough. The longer it cooks over the stove, the more gravy-like the sauce gets, so keep an eye on your mince mixture to make sure it's thick enough for your liking.

Why does my mash sink? ›

Residual moisture from the potatoes will drip into the beef below as it cooks, and too much of it will cause the potatoes to eventually sink. Aside from ridding your potatoes of excess moisture before you mash them, it also helps to cool the beef down, BBC Good Food shares.

Should potatoes float or sink? ›

The potato will sink to the bottom. Ask the students which has higher density – the potato or the liquid? (The potato.) o Ask students to hypothesize about what made the density (or mass) of each solution different. Ask them "What might one of the liquids be?" (They will likely guess water.)

How do you fix a potato that is too creamy? ›

You can use what you have on hand: Flour, cornstarch, or powdered milk are all solid options that are probably already in your pantry. Potato flour and potato starch would work as well. Stir in the thickening agent gradually, about a tablespoon at a time, until the potatoes have reached your desired consistency.

Why do you soak potatoes in water for mashed potatoes? ›

Soaking potatoes in water helps remove excess starch. Excess starch can inhibit the potatoes from cooking evenly as well as creating a gummy or sticky texture on the outside of your potatoes. Cold water is used because hot water would react with the starch activating it, making it harder to separate from the potatoes.

Why is my shepherd's pie soggy? ›

A good shepherd's – or indeed cottage – pie, needs a solid, but fluffy top: too much milk or butter, and you'll end up with a sloppy puree instead.

How do restaurants keep mashed potatoes? ›

Restaurants prepare the potatoes ahead by boiling and mashing just the potato, then just before serving, it is mixed into boiling cream (or milk or even broth or a combination thereof) to reheat it and make it nice and creamy.

How do you stop a cottage pie from leaking? ›

To stop the mash leaking into the cottage pie filling below (and if you have time), let the meat cool before adding the potato topping. This recipe can be made up to 2 days in advance and stored in the fridge well wrapped in cling film or kitchen foil.

What can I use to thicken my shepherd's pie? ›

The easiest way to thicken shepherd's pie filling is by sprinkling a few tablespoons of flour into the ground beef mixture as it cooks before adding it to the baking dish. The starch in the flour will absorb the extra liquid and create a thick gravy.

How long does homemade cottage pie last? ›

How long can you keep Cottage Pie in the fridge? Once you've put it out, ideally you should eat it within 4 hours. If you allow any left overs to cool, make sure to refrigerate in a container with a lid and chill. You can keep leftovers of Cottage Pie in the fridge for approximately 3 days or so.

How to stop mash potato sinking in shepherd's pie? ›

A layer of frozen peas! I let the mince mixture sit for a few minutes and cool, add in a layer of frozen peas and then put the mash on in scoops before spreading them out - never sinks!

How to spread mash on cottage pie? ›

Spread the mash properly

With potato-topped pies, always start with a ring of mash, using the side of the dish to scrape the mash off the spatula, working your way into the middle.

How to keep shepherd's pie from falling apart? ›

How do you keep shepherds pie from falling apart? The eggs in the mashed potatoes help keep the pie together. You should also make sure to spread the potatoes and press down a bit.

How do you keep potatoes from dissolving in soup? ›

Cut the potatoes into rissolettes and blanche them (i.e. cook them briefly, not to full doneness). Use the water you used in the soup and put the potatoes back in when you go to warm the soup again for serving. Since they're cut fairly small, they should be just about done without being mushy when you go to eat.

How do you keep a pie from sinking? ›

To slow down the shrinkage or falling of the filling, let the pie cool down in the oven gradually. When the pie crust is completely cooked and golden, turn off the oven but leave the pie in. Let it sit in the oven for 10 to 15 minutes in an off-oven.

Does potato sink or float in salt water give reason? ›

The potato has a higher density than the water and therefore it sinks to the bottom. When the salt is mixed in the water, it gets more density than the potato, and the potato floats.

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